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customers. they have been talking for a while about trying to find more moderate republicans to replace these guys. we have not seen it happen yet. one race where they try to play that was in michigan. we will see if that expands at all in 2016. host: from a presidential politics standpoint, with senator sanders pulling hillary clinton to the left considering -- concerning industry, do they have a concern about the outcome of the presidential race this year h? could impact the industry? >> absolutely. i think it is especially true because the approach we have seen from the regulators from
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the obama and ministers and has been aggressive. nk gave them a mandate to adopt lots of new rules for the financial sector. in a lot of ways, they have taken that and run with it. whoever is the next president, whether or not they appoint people with that same mindset and of that same disposition to those posts to continue at agenda, or whether they appoint someone who thinks we should take a break from those rules, roll some of them back. someone who is sympathetic to the argument that governor pawlenty and members of his trade group make about new regulation hurting economic growth and constraining their , that is a hard issue. not everyone feels the same way about it. i think it absolutely matters. what will be interesting in the campaign is whether or not you see candidates like governor perry, governor sanders --
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senator sanders, or others, take positions the box them in for when they become president. governor perry with the policy proposals he put out hedged his bets. he did not go out and endorse a new glass-steagall where he wants to break up the big bang. he says we should consider that a look at other things. where the financial service industry will get concerned as if they see candidates taking explicit positions like sanders has. if one of them becomes president, having to commit to that promise. listening to commitments would be to take away. up, youickly as we wrap spent time with him on the cyber security bill. said, it doesn't seem to me to be a controversial bill that if it were put up to a vote would fail. the question is, will it be put up for a vote on its own?
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i think it probably passes. to bek both parties want seen doing something about this issue given the hack attacks we keep reading about. i suspect they will pass by the end of the year. host: if you had time to look at the legislation, so many americans have had notice after notice that their personal information has been hacked the retailers, banks, etc. what this legislation help with that? >> i don't know that it has a national -- i have studied the information sharing part of it more. i am not sure what it says on national data breach notification. if anything, it would standardize the notices that people receive. i don't know that it would necessarily lessen them. to the extent that it helps the government and the financial service industry protect people and institutions against being , maybe they will receive
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less notices because it is happening less. people want to know when it happens. my sense is that lawmakers want to move this to a place where people receive clear notifications of when their information has been breached and quickly so that they can deal with it. host: a wide-ranging conversation with the governor, we appreciate your questions. >> thanks. >> c-span as on the 2016 campaign trail in des moines this week at the iowa state fair. ben carson is attending the event today. speaking from the register candidates soapbox at around 5:00 p.m. eastern. shortly after that, another gop candidate, george pataki. he is scheduled to speak at 5:30 eastern. we will have both speeches live on c-span. right now, we will take a look at some of the other presidential hopefuls who travel to iowa yesterday to meet with
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local residents any media. they included donald trump, bernie sanders, and hillary clinton. >> several 2016 presidential hopefuls were in des moines today for day three of the iowa state fair. among the candidates were hillary clinton, rick santorum, lincoln chafee, and bernie sanders. we also saw donald trump attend the event. he flew in by helicopter and proceeded to hold a news conference with reporters.
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[indiscernible] trump: now it is on. >> welcome to the state fair. trump: thank you very much. it is a great honor to be here. hello mark. >> why did you decide to come and do this? trump: it will be very exciting for the kids and of the kids
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will go up. we have quite a few children that will be taking rights today. where are the children? get them over here. that is great. i love children, i love iowa. great place. i really developed a relationship with it and it is an amazing place. yes mark? [indiscernible] trump: i have been doing it. i have been here many times. we have a great staff of the whole place. chuck and everybody. i really have been doing it. actually the venues of gotten larger and larger because we really have gotten some tremendous crowds. we are doing record-breaking crowds. i'm so honored when i saw the recent polls with highway leading by a lot. we started with smaller venues and gotten bigger and bigger. the crowds of god enormous. i would still do that if it was appropriate. >> what you want to say to the
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kids? trump: i love my kids. come here kids. does anybody want to take a ride? [cheers] trump: how many are we taking? who wants to go first? [laughter] trump: we will have some fun. are your parents out there? way to your parents. they will have a great time. it is a great experience. i do, i have jury duty. and look forward to it. i have no expectations. i just hope they are innocent, whoever they are. >> would you say to hillary? trump: she has a lot of problems with the you know situation. if you look at general petraeus, he had just a tiny fraction of what she is got going. they destroyed his life virtually. i think she
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has some very big problems. i wish her luck at i think she has big problems. >> [indiscernible] trump: nice seeing you martha. aioli say you were innocent and proven guilty but certainly it with the that way. it looks very serious as first hillary is concerned. i hope that is not what happens to her. the facts are not good -- looking good for her right now. if you look at patreas on a much lesser level, i think it will be tougher her. yes? >> under what circumstance would you use a nuclear weapon? trump: i don't even want to talk about that question. it is a very serious question and hopefully you would never have to use a nuclear weapon. but we have to be prepared. the world hates us, probably like never before. we have to build up our military and take care of our vets. we have to have the finest military and equipment by a
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factor of 10. we have to be protected and so tough and so strong that nobody will ever mess with us. >> would you say to hillary clinton if you rented to hurt the state fair? i would say hello. >> what is your biggest challenge going forward? trump: we are being ripped off by everybody in the world, whether it is china or japan or mexico. mexico is becoming the new china in terms of trade. so many companies. just yesterday i read nabisco is moving to mexico. give me a break. we have to reverse that. we need jobs in our country. we are going to take jobs back from china, japan. we will make art country great again. that to me is going to be the challenge and we will do it. and it is not going to be that difficult. iceberg with carl icahn. he will help us. all
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the best negotiators. we of the best business people in the world in this country. they will all help us. believe me, when i get the right people negotiating with the right countries, we will come out on top every time. that is what we need. [applause] >> can you talk about jeb bush yesterday during a puppet of all the donors raising $100 million? trump: he is a puppet. he's got lobbyists. he made statements of the last couple of days that are incredible try to justify the war in iraq. they cannot be justified. he said "skin in the game." he said united states has to prove to iraq that we have skin in the game. we spent $2 trillion, thousands of lives lost, wounded warriors who i love all over the place. and he said we have to prove that we have skin in the game. i think it may be one of the dumbest statements i've ever heard. skin
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in the game. we do not have to prove anything. the iraqi officials are a bunch of crooks, you there even is in iraq which i don't think there is. iran is taking over iraq. it was one of the dumbest things ever. i think what happened, because i understand psychology, i think is rather probably said you are killing me. that was his war. he looks very bad. said jeb bush tried to push back. but when he said we have to prove to iraq that we have skin in the game and we have lost all of those lives and all of that money, i think he should apologize to the families of the people. should apologize to the families of the people. >> you admit that you were a puppeteer. >> i was one of the greats. i know how the system works better than anybody.
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these are not people that are doing it because they like the color of his hair, believe me. these are highly sophisticated killers. when they get $5 million or $2 million to geoff, they had him just like a puppet. he will do whatever they want. he is their puppet. believe me. with me, i had yesterday a lobbyist call me up. a friend of mine. for his client, i don't blame him, he said i want to put $5 million into your campaign and i said i don't need it or want it. because when you can back to me in two years anyone help for a company that you representing or country that you are representing, i'm good to the to the right thing for the people of the united states and i don't have to insult you. i appreciated but don't want your $5 million. i am turning down so much money. if he put it up i would feel obligated as i'm a
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loyal person. just like jeb bush. i'm not just talking about jeb, hillary too. nobody plays the game better than i did and that is the way it works. qualified to be president in -- >> are you qualified to be president in your view? trump: nobody will do the job that i will do. i will bring back jobs, strengthen the military, take care of bets, get rid of obamacare. look at what is happening. look what is happening. the costs of your insurance is gone to the roof. look what it is happening. it is terrible. i will take care of people in it will be better to women. there is another thing i heard with jeb. women's health issues. then he goes back to her three hours later and said he misspoke. i will be so great to women. i cherish women and women have not been taking care of properly. when i hear somebody like jeb bush talking about we are not going to find -- and then he comes back.'s pollster said you made a mistake, take it
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back. but he does not mean it from the heart. another question. >> [indiscernible] trump: it will come out tomorrow on "meet the press." i just put out a policy on immigration i think is very comprehensive. tax policy which i have to be very good at. who knows the system better than me? i'm putting out a tax policy over the next you weeks. we are putting them out one by one. i think you will see that it will be very important. thank you for all your nice words. >> a lot of voters are saying they really with this year policies. they are very eager to see the substance behind -- trump: i think the press is more eager to see it than the voters. i think they like me and they understand the and think i will do the job. when you put out a policy like a 14 point plan, a lot of times in the first hour of negotiation that 14 point plan goes astray. but you may come up with a better deal. that
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is how life works. when i do a deal i do not say here's 14 point. i go out and do it. i don't talk about 14 points. i know the press wants it. i don't think that people care. i think they trust me. that is what it is all about. i have been getting politicians to pass whatever it wanted all my life. nobody has more experience. nobody is more experience dealing with politicians. i have been dealing with them all my life. whether it is big new york city zoning deals which are probably tougher than most of the things i will be dealing with with foreign countries. i built a city on the west side of manhattan. talk about getting zoning. getting zoning for trump tower, 68 stories on 57th. i've been given with politicians all my life. they are fine. they are wonderful. they are all talk and no action. they are selling this, country down the tubes and they are easy to deal with believe me.
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>> why do you think voters don't care about policy? >> why aren't you speaking at the iowa soapbox? are you afraid to take questions? trump: that paper was not relevant to me. and a notice another -- a number of other people are not speaking there. yes, i'm taking questions right now. am i going to take questions? she just asked if i'm going to take questions from reporters. am i taking questions from reporters? they will tell you i'm taking questions. [applause] trump: unlike hillary, do we agree? go ahead. [indiscernible] trump: i had not heard that. i guess that is a consummate in many ways. -- complement in many ways.
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yes, go ahead. >> my concern is protecting the border and enforcing the laws we already have -- trump: you are going to love me in terms of illegal immigration. we are building a wall. it will be a wall. nobody is going through my wall. trump builds walls. we are building the wall. it will be strong and solid and the least -- policed. all you have to do is fly a drone over it. they can see that immediately. nobody can go under, nobody's going over it, and we are good of a big door for people to come and legally. we will have a big dutiful door -- beautiful door for people to commit legally. i want people to come into the country but they have to come in legally. you will be very happy with me. yeah? >> would a president trump the same as candidate trump with foreign leaders? trump: i think even better. foreign leaders -- i've had great relationships over the years. i had great relationships
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with people over the years. i think even better. i am leading in every poll. the big ones and little ones. i am leading in iowa because when people look at scott walker, estate has a $2.2 billion deficit. he was telling people's growth is terrible -- in terms of the state. their instrument is dissension all of the state but they said they will have a big surplus of $1 billion. it's a $2.2 billion deficit. nobody was willing to say it but me. and i did not want to say it. i would not have said it until he attacked me. then i said thank you very much and i set it. >> i am talking about foreign leaders. trump: i get along great with them. i'm building when china -- in china. a building all over the world. why, do you think they're getting long good right now? putin can't stand obama. who likes obama? i am talking worldwide. he is not getting along with anybody. hillary
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clinton was the single worst secretary of state in the history of this country. the world collapsed around us while she was secretary of state. in my opinion, kerry might be worse because he is making a deal with iran that is so bad and so dangerous and so incompetent and stupid that it will have grave consequences. grave consequences. >> what would you do what they want to stop the iranians from getting a nuclear weapon? trump: very forceful action. you
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cannot let iran -- let me tell you this. nor can israel. israel sold epicurean obama. you cannot let iran have nuclear weapon. when they marched on the street saying "have to israel, death to united states." it cannot happen. it will not happen here. >> yourself funding your campaign. heavyset a budget for this endeavor? trump: irrelevant. i make $400 million a year. what difference does it make? i want to make the country great. that is all it want to do. my business has been so successful. my children and my executives will run that
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easily. i won't even think about it. my sole purpose will be taking the brain that built a great business with some of the great assets of the world, i have some the great assets in the world. best locations in manhattan. trump tower, 57th and fifth. that is what i do whatever it is. whatever kind of a brain that is will be used to making our country rich again, trade deals. great trade deals. making our country rich. and then making it great. we cannot make it great unless we make it -- we need the money. we of $19 trillion. my whole focus will be this country and making it great. >> will you spend a billion dollars -- $1 billion on election? trump: i would if i had to. >> [indiscernible] trump: yes, i do. i have exceptions and i've been open about that. >> what is the biggest challenge your campaign faces going into the fall? have you made any mistakes so far? trump: i don't think i have made mistakes. they do the polls in my never go up. when i said mexico, i was talking about illegal immigration. the people understood it even though the press did not want them to. when i talk about john mccain i was saying how bad he treated veterans. they are treated badly. than they do a poll. mccain or trump? and i swap them in the polls. the veterans like me better because they know i
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will take care of them. after 30 years he is not taking care of them. and this last thing with fox. all you have to do is ask roger who won. i do not think i have made any mistakes. i'm sure i will at some point, but so far you have to say as a work of badly? right. reported is not want to give me an answer. >> your wife is the possible first lady? they are not doing it to any other candidate. trump: did you run a profile? that will not happen. she is fantastic. >> what kind of things will you do differently for this country? trump: almost everything. what things in my candidate different for this country? almost everything, because that is what has to happen. everything we do is wrong. the military, we are not taking care of the military
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or our vets. we are not taking care of our country, our finances. we're not taking care of our trade deals. when was the last time you saw this country have a victory? we do not have victories. we do not have victories against china in trade. china just devalued their currency. that is the sucking sound. that means jobs and money coming out of our country. what they did with that evaluation, the biggest devaluation that had into decades, they are killing us. they will not be doing it when i am watching. i think our people have no idea what is happening. do you agree with me? does everybody agree with me? >> yeah! trump: let's give them a helicopter ride. come on, it was going first? where are your parents? kids, get all lined up. [indiscernible] trump: let's get a picture of
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everybody. get in the picture. >> everybody back. [indiscernible] [captioning performed by the national captioning institute, which is responsible for its caption content and accuracy. visit] greeting local residents. i noticed that last night in the speech, you joked about
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.napshot -- snapchat [captions copyright national cable satellite corp. 2015] do you take any responsibility for this investigation that is going on now? clinton: first, i have said that i used a single account for convenience. years later, it doesn't look so convenient. the facts are the same as they have been from the very these questions being raised. most importantly, i never sent classified material on my e-mail, and i never received any that was marked classified. i am going to let whatever
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inquiry go forward and will .wait the outcome of it it will probably confirm what i just said to you. look at think, if you the republicans in congress and running for president, there is an unfortunate tendency to try g --ke partisan a trotta tragedy in benghazi. i don't bigots right and i will not participate. we will see how this all plays out. it's not anything that people ilk to me a route -- about as travel the country. it is never raised in my other meetings of people. i think people are interested in what mr. harkin just said. he will get the economy moving.
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refinance people who are in debt. open up the workforce for women, people with disabilities so they can make their contribution, be treated fairly, and so much more. >> a few democrats i have spoken to have said they are worried. clinton: this is the usual partisan as asian -- partisan ization, i think i just made up a word. i think people in iowa are going to want to vote for somebody they believe will deliver -- deliver results for them. i have a very strong case to make on that. >> [indiscernible]
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mrs. clinton: can you repeat that? >> [indiscernible] mr. harkin: i don't know anything about timing. i spent the entire month of july -- 25thon the 24th anniversary. that occupied a lot of my time. what better time than the iowa state fair? >> are you saying the
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intelligence review and department of justice are partisan review? inton: this is not about me, they have confirmed that. there are disputes going on among agencies about what should have, could have, would have been done years ago. at that is something for them to work out. i did not send nor did i receive material marked as classified. >> jeb bush has criticized you and president obama push --
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isis.s about the rise of do you think the administration needs to do more? -- mrs.nton" i thought find it curious that jeb bush is doubling down on defending his brother's actions in iraq. the entire picture includes the agreement that george w. bush iraqwith the government in that said the end of 2011 was the day to withdraw american troops. that was done under george w. bush. i can only wonder whether he either did not know that or thought that other people would not be reminded of that. to make whatever case he wishes on behalf of his own family, there is clearly a very
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between the agreement george w. bush signed and the efforts that the obama administration made, of which i was a part, to persuade the iraqi government to admit continued american forests for iraqi armies -- forces. they did not want a continued american presence. i think that what is being done is verypect to isis significant in terms of support that the united states is now providing to the iraqi armies to retrain because that is what the government did to start to erode the abilities. try to get the sunnis back into the fight against isis.
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iraqi-ledo be an mission. like anybody who has followed ,he terrific, barb -- horrific barbaric behavior by isis, i am very committed to supporting the efforts within the region to try poseke on the threats they to everyone, but particularly to women and especially women of certain religious backgrounds. is so deeply that depressing to read about what is going on there. i think we have to do more and i hope we will do more to try to to the whole region together drive isis out of the territory they occupied to rescue the people they have enslaved, predominantly women.
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ishink that president obama doing what he can to try to bring that about. >> thank you. quick question. how do you assess the 2015 republican field. did you ever expect to see donald trump on top of the list? they are trying to appeal to -- it tends to be more divisive. two separate people more than ever.
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i hope more moderate voices will come to the forefront. you were going to essendon and then we have to go. you are about to go on some vacation time. is there one thing you feel could make a stronger candidate? what is the biggest mistake you have made? ms. clinton: i am just having a good time. months intofour this. i feel positive about the organization. is a continuing conversation with the american people. i am learning a lot about it. let me give you an example of why i find this so personally rewarding. debuque, a woman said
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she was there because when i talked to mental health. the reason i talked about it is because people in iowa talk to me about it. i want to have this continuing conversation and i will fight as hard as i can to earn every vote. let me just also say, as a longtime iowa politician, [indiscernible] i just want to say this. hillary is doing everything she can. the organization is strong. she is touching on
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are reaching people in the state of iowa. a much better and more personally involved campaign than in 2008. she just needs to come out and meet iowans and the rest will fall into place. that is why i believe in the caucuses hillary will come out ahead. >> have you had any conversations with joe biden? [indiscernible]
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>> hi, hillary. nice to meet you. [indiscernible] >> secretary clinton, how are you? at is a good th recommendation. >> glad to be here. ms. clinton: how are you, sir? good to see you. nice to see you. thank you guys.
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[indiscernible] that is even better. how are you? i am so happy to see you. you got it. ms. clinton: i knew john's sister beth. together when fun we taught at fayetteville in the law school. came and she was solicitor general here. the attorney general's office. ill convinced her to go to washington for a while. great to see you.
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>> my daughter wanted to be sure you got this information. : we have to get a picture we can send. get the senator and me with you? hi, macon. nice to meet you. thank you so much. i will take it. we will take a couple. >> that is wonderful. thank you. ms. clinton: i had to laugh.
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run thei used to potlucks together when we were ining in pay at bell -- fayetteville. we would have people over and have potlucks. it was like something she brought from iowa to arkansas. she brought them to washington. the justice department, janet reno. the potluck is one of the best ways to have people meet each other. will do everything we can. we live just north of lucas. we have a native grass seed business.
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ms. clinton: i need you around. not just for the campaign. it is so good to see you. >> we got to get together. >> it happens to you, it is the best. ms. clinton: will and i are crazy. we are way over the top. thank you both so much.
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thank you, take care. ok. bye-bye. [indiscernible] >> good to see you. that is my daughter. two years now. i was in eastern iowa and
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decided i wanted to join the farm. hers and joined. >> best thing i did. but it is wonderful. family farm, generation after generation. bought it inther 1905. >> my kids are back from college. we have grants guns. -- grandsons. ms. clinton: how far back does that go? x as far back as we can trace over in europe and they moved here. a love of agriculture. ms. clinton: it is wonderful to
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have the chance to sit down and talk with you all and have you here. when youyou for -- that was so perfect. wow. you folks put that together so well. ms. clinton: it came from listening to people. have you been down? >> there is a casino. it doesn't bring headlines. learn, -- [indiscernible]
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>> a plus. [indiscernible] >> i am from riverside. wanted to introduce myself and say hi. longtime dairy farmer. know, i'mt to let you a mother of a severely disabled child. she is on 14 different medications. methadone, morphine. ms. clinton: how old is she? what is her name? x she is undiagnosed.
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seizurespilepsy, heart they cannot stop. she is on a feeding tube. not excited to live long. i have been advocating for medical cannabis we would love your support. for a real medical purpose. ms. clinton: to do the research so we know. just what to introduce myself and thank you for coming to the state fair. >> thanks for sharing that. ms. clinton: we are good friends with bob and wally. thanks for all you do. clinton: i will certainly support it. i have and i will continue to permit i want to get the research going for it >> she is on a clinical trial right now.
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they are a game changer. she deserves so much. thank you so much. [indiscernible] ms. clinton: are we still following --
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perfect. [indiscernible]
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>> where are we going?
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>> thanks for coming here today. they're coming back for sure. farmers are getting back, engaged. ms. clinton: you have to buy all new chickens. >> they have to start from scratch. in a take a couple of years but they are coming back. our farmers are focused and resilient. ms. clinton: i.e. a lot of eggs. i hope you come back. senator harkin was talking about that. 30 million birds. [indiscernible] >> can you take it, please?
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ms. clinton: thanks a lot. hi, how are you doing. went to get a picture really quick?
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right here, guys. hillary. how are you? [indiscernible] >> republican presidential candidate rick santorum was among those who took part in the
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des moines register event. each candidate gets up to 20 minutes to speak. his remarks were followed by former governor lincoln chafee and bernie sanders. >> book of the face off grid the next speaker is former senator rick santorum who is running for the republican nomination for the presidency. mr. santorum was first elected to the house of representatives from pens of in two terms in the senate. the winner of the iowa republican caucuses. welcome back to the soap box stage rick santorum. mr. santorum: thank you. i apologize for being two minutes late but i came from a rally at the state capitol.
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to defund planned parenthood. i was proud to be the only presidential candidate up there talking about how we have to defund planned parenthood. talking about the reality of what planned parenthood is doing. videos, andat those i know this because i wrote the law. what they are doing and was described in the videos, partial-birth abortion. those were done in this case to so theythe vital organs can harvest the baby's organs for research and otherness various things. -- other nefarious things.
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planned parenthood is breaking the law. we need someone in washington who can get done. we have gotten things done. partiald about the birth abortion statute. important piece of legislation. said.s. supreme court banning partial-birth abortion was unconstitutional. most people when they have a court decision that is against what they believe, they do what most republican candidates do. it is the law of the land and time to move on. when the supreme court ask unconstitutionally, the last thing we need to do is move on.
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we need to stand up and fight. i did. that went to the supreme court. out chapter and verse why the court was wrong. every branch of government, when itook my oath of office, pledged to uphold the constitution of the u.s.. every president, every branch of government has a responsibility to do it right.
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when the supreme court gets it wrong, it is incumbent on the president and congress to get it right. i'm nearly person in the race who has done it. the supreme court backed down and that is why partial-birth is illegal today. [applause] mr. santorum: we need leadership on other issues. we are at a point in time in our country where four years ago when i was standing on this stage, we see what is happening around the world. threats are rising against america, not just from iran but from china and russia and even from central and south america. this president has turned a blind eye, he has deliberately empowered the enemy. he has empowered russia by not holding up to her treaties with ukraine. he has empowered syria. he has empowered iran. he has empowered isis. he has empowered china.
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every step of the way, he has been soft with our enemies and very harsh to our allies. we need a leader who will stand for the principles of our government and for our own national security. not to placate our enemies. to stand with our allies to make sure that our interests are defended. there is nobody in this race has the record that i do on national security. just about three months ago, isis published a magazine and it comes out on a monthly basis, i am told. three months ago, my picture was in their magazine. and it was under the headline, "in the words of our enemy." it was my picture underneath that. i laid out who they are. and i have put it out very clearly as i have in speeches why and how isis can be defeated. i was put on an isis enemy list. --es and in the men,
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gentlemen, there is nobody else in this race is on that list and unfortunately, neither is hillary clinton. why am i on that list? because after 9/11, i have spent the time needed to understand. toctions that wrought iran the bargaining table. i was the author of those laws sanctions 10 years ago. and you know who fought against me? joe biden, hillary clinton, barack obama. we won. we need a leader who can do, who is going to stand up to defeat isis. not to contain them. empower isis to
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recruit people here in america as well as around the world. we must take back their land, we must destroy their states. if we do not, the incidences that you are hearing about, they will accelerate. they are accelerating. we have not taken the threat seriously. i will take the threat seriously. i will make sure that isis isn't spending their money on new weapons, they are spending their money on body bags, because that is what will happen if you elect me as president. i will defeat isis. [applause] gov. santorum: you need a leader who is going to stand up for the men and women in this country who have been left behind. i know for a fact before from western pennsylvania. the reason i did is because we have seen a continuation for the state of living for the people of america.
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sometimes, unless they have an accurate description of the problem, they don't have an accurate conclusion. but that doesn't mean that they aren't observing what israel. what is real is a that americans are losing hope. wages are flat. there are 93 million americans were no longer in the workplace. i will ensure that people have employment and that they will not sit on the sidelines because there is no hope that they cannot come back into the workforce. the democrats' response is the same. give you more money and we will stop pay for medicaid and all of these things. you don't want more government handouts.
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you want the opportunity to be able to rise to work and provide for yourself and your family, and unfortunately, the republican party has been sort of empty in that regard. we talk about capital gains and we talk about cutting taxes, but i have a 20/20 vision for america. it is about flat tax of income and corporate income. [applause] gov. santorum: we are going to change the internal revenue code and make change and give americans a fair shot. [applause] i will be able to lead and get things done because i have a track record for that in washington, d.c. i know how to work with people and get things done. we ended federal entitlements.
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why? because i wanted to get people back to work and provide incentives for people to be able to provide again in society. and guess what they did? bill clinton vetoed that bill twice. i kept saying, no, i am not going to give up. we are going to work to get things done because people in this country need it. the welfare rolls were cut in half. that is a good thing. but that is not what happened. poverty was at its lowest level ever measured in the united states of america. [applause] gov. santorum: you give me the opportunity to go out there with a pro-work agenda that says that america is going to be the number one manufacturing country in the world again. we can do that here in america if we have a tax code, a
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regulatory, an energy policy that makes us competitive with the rest of the world. a lot of people talk up the idea of beating these people or winning this are winning that. i have a plan. an actual plan that will put us back on top. every american will have the opportunity to rise. you are going to be creating jobs for americans of all levels and skill sets will rise. we were once a country that had manufacturing of production.
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you see it here in iowa, your agricultural economy took off. we need to have that happen in michigan and other states, etc. we have to do this in ohio and michigan and indiana. why? you see it here in iowa, your because we are talking about people who are hurting in those states. we are talking about people who have been suffering in the rust belt for the last 30 years. i come from the rust belt. my grandfather was a coal miner. my grandfather was an immigrant to this country. they fought for working men and women. those who fought against bad trade bills like nafta, like i did. the speaker of the house and the chairman of the ways and means
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committee, i led the charge to make that happen. you want someone who can shake things up and get things done and move this country in a way that this country is just -- just -- just anxious for. you need someone to lead us. for the american people to get their pride back again. we need the opportunity to make things and to produce things and to and make not just our country safer but the rest of the world safer. ladies and gentlemen, you gave me that opportunity in iowa. four years ago, you gave me that opportunity. four years ago there was a poll out today and i was at 1% in the polls. two weeks before the iowa caucus, i was at 2%. but the people of iowa, you did your jobs. you looked at all the candidates and you shuffled through all of the rhetoric. you looked at who actually has
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accomplished something, has a vision for this country, and can make difference in moving america forward. you are looking for someone who can make america strong and who can stand up and make this country great and who can bring people to jobs back at all levels in our society. you want some of the who can work at all levels to get things done, i know, because i have done it. i only have to ask one thing. please declare me the winner on caucus night. you stand with me. you got it right last time. i know because the other people didn't get it right. they didn't win. you give us the opportunity to make the case of america being the great country and led by someone who is out there fighting.
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we can have not just a great victory for the republicans and the conservatives, but more importantly we could have a great victory for america again and you can make people feel good about this country again. thank you. thank you very much. god bless the united of america
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>> i also had the dream act they call it. state tuition for next earth that are undocumented. they don't have to pay out-of-state tuition. alsot that has to hit we as governor, when we had obamacare, it was the national leaders. it did not just happen. we worked hard. we knew this is going to be a difficult process, getting
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people to sign up for change, and we made it happen. not only as governor, getting people back to work increased things for the future of our state. marriage equality. the dream act. wageso raised the minimum during my term as governor. very proud to do that. leadership of making this a better for future generations. first of all as a wrestler, that is always important. as a local officeholder, and counseling, and mayor, in the united states senator. there is no other candidate running for president republican or democrat that can say they have had that experience. i have been at local level, federal level, state level. let's start this conversation about who we are going to have to be our next resident grade
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be ours not a lot of -- next president. there is not a lot of learning curve. that is important for our next president. the vision for the future. my record of making test boats, being honest and ethical. a vision for the future. for the first three years in the senate i chaired a middle and western hemisphere subcommittee. i traveled all through this hemisphere. all the countries in south america. almost all the countries in south america. i met with castro in havana, hugo chavez in venezuela, i met with all the world leaders. all throughout south america. then i became --
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chairman of the middle east subcommittee. i have been to israel. i have been to jordan. i have been to iraq. i have been to egypt. i have been to lebanon. i have been to many of the countries in the middle east and met many of the world leaders there. the mistake that we made with invading iraq, i felt it was my response ability to do something about fixing it. we need to fix it. jeb was saying in 2009 it was mission accomplished, iraq was a secure place. he is just drinking some kind of neocon kool-aid to think that a rack was secure. he was delusional to think iraq was secure. jeb was saying a mission accomplished. you can't have that people --
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those people come back. it's just like the wmds. it was not the truth. we want to tell our citizens the truth. that is the third reason. the vision for the future. what i want to do is work hard to end these wars that have been going on for to long. we need to say yes we can work to put this together. yes we can work with the iranians to put this together. yes we can work with the chinese to put this together. this is what we did. that is that we did in the iran nuclear deal. although the republicans are opposed to it, we cannot have up theming back breaking middle east to cause future generations more problems. those are the reasons i am running. look at my record. all through my public career, over three decades i have never had any standard -- scandals. i have the highest ethical standards. you will never see any kind of
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ethical scandals or any issues. courageous votes, time and time again, especially the iraq vote under enormous pressure. tax those under enormous pressure. i have enormous -- i have a backbone. that is my character. for our roads and bridges and dance around iowa and around this country. for our environment. it is going to take resources. for our health care. those resources home. if you can get piece you are going to have prosperity. they do so much for coming to iowa. enjoy the fair. first of all it has to be a
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democrat in 2016, the second of all it has to be lincoln chafee. thank you. [applause] does anybody have a question? somebody and back with the buttons that say vote? [indiscernible] ballot?s to the or security? u.s. to have access. it is very important. not have barrier to voting.
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access to the ballot and security to your boat so that it is counted properly. yes ma'am? >> what are you going to do money in influence of politics? >> good question. i am running a low-budget campaign. this is a chance to test is it all about money? is that how we are going to choose our next president? is it all about money? are we going to work with someone like lincoln chafee who has the record, has a character, has the vision, but might not necessarily have the money. this is a test. i ask the voters to do their homework and sift through all the issues, if you decide. it isn't all about the money? what can we do beyond that? certainly i voted for mccain-feingold which was the campaign-finance reform. the supreme court, as we all know, has struck down parts of it. issues on your
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first amendment rights to how much the wealthy can spend of their own money. i certainly would not appoint any supreme court justices that would like to keep bending that for the wealthy. this country is getting upside down with the money coming into politics. but i believe in the people. they will come forward. come on people. stand up. we are not just going to let them tell us how we are going to vote with this daily just money. yes sir.
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we came with a packed to get that canadian hydropower down. unlimited. unlimited resources of hydropower. clean, reliable, affordable. just what you are talking about. that is what is going to send world america over the edge. there has got to be more to the discussion. we hear about wind and solar. we care about geothermal. but we have got to access some of this hydropower. it is reliable. the rivers flow downhill every day. it is affordable. it is clean. that's what we want. in fact to the premiere quebec said to all of us, we in the northeast could be agreement low-cost energy capital of north america. that is how important hydropower is to the mix of clean reliable energy. good question.
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[indiscernible] the question is how can i disregard the yellowcake uranium. that was never proven. i asked them show me all the evidence you have, i have to vote on this in three weeks. laid out whatts they had. i was therefore an hour. it was just no evidence of weapons of mass destruction. those are the facts. there is something called the downing street memo and came back and said the brits were saying there are no weapons of mass destruction. what a tragedy. now we have to fix it. we made a huge mistake. now we have to fix it. i'm glad i'm not the one that drink the kool-aid. yes.
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[indiscernible] that is a technical question about the sec and broadband, i'm going to have to be honest. i have to get up to speed on that. let's stay in touch. i would like to have a good solid answer. as i said, i am not a flip over. i would like to -- > [indiscernible] >> to end wage stagnation? it all started as i said with those huge tax cuts. the economy went great in the 90's. we all know that. then bush and cheney came in with these huge tax cuts. one $.6 trillion in tax cuts.
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how did they get away with that? trillion. they created the cascading sequence of mistakes. i was not buying it. what could be more popular for politicians than to vote for tax cuts? that is the most popular thing a politician can do. i thought it was more important with wage stagnation and all these issues to keep the economy plugging along. let the wealthy pay their parents -- their fair share. i don't like wage stagnation. that is where it started. now how to fix it again, back into repair mode. minimum wage is certainly a part of that. all the things we have to do to repair mistakes made by the republicans, bush and cheney. yes sir. [indiscernible] how would i pick the supreme
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court justice? just to think of the consequences, whether it is the environment or continuing this was overseas, but probably the top of the list's appointment to the supreme court because it is a lifetime appointment. and the strategy has been -- i was there for two of them in the senate and i voted against samuel alito and roberts was the other one. i voted against him because i didn't think he was going to stand up for women's reproductive freedoms. i didn't think he was going to be there on lgbt writes. and he hasn't been. what is the criteria -- and the strategy, as i have said, is you get these life justices. msm is possible. that is the strategy. so the other for a long time. -- so they are there for a long time. that has to be at the top of our list. just look at my record, as i
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said, my character, the types of people i have surrounded myself with over the years and will be totally confident i will make good apartments to the supreme court. making good decisions for those many, many decades. yes, ma'am? >> [indiscernible] -- deficits that we have in this country. the debt. is just getting out of hand. war and the bush tax cuts still going on is the reason. what can we common americans do to help get this debt down? i am the baby boomer. we are going to be retiring soon. and these kids shouldn't pay this.
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mr. chafee: i would like to go back a little bit. as you said, the tax cuts and then the war. i don't know what it is going to cost us. maybe $6 trillion over the is. then also, the republicans embarked on earmarks and the spending spree was so anti-to the old republican philosophy of taking of the books and let people live their lives. the old eisenhower approach. it was the opposite. getting involved and not taking care of the books. bringing back deficits. so how are we going to fix it? i would like to say, again, look at my record. beene been a mayor, i have a governor, i have had to balance budgets. and at the same time give the services the people want. and we had a tuition freeze years -- two years of my four
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years as governor. you can put the resources where they are most needed and keep taxes down. not different from a business. and i enjoy it, to be honest. i like the challenge. i want to have good services. and i want to keep those taxes down. i enjoy that dynamic of doing both. oh, thank you. [laughter] >> [applause] >> thank you very much. >> [cheering] [applause]
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>> welcome to the des moines register political sort -- soapbox. they give a much for coming. our next speaker is bernie sanders. >> [cheering] [applause] >> bernie, bernie, bernie! >> he is running for the democratic nomination. >> [cheering] elected toers was four terms as the mayor of burlington, vermont. he then served in the u.s. house of representatives for three terms. and since 2007, has been a u.s. senator from vermont and was elected -- [indiscernible] welcome to the soapbox date, senator bernie sanders. >> [cheering] [applause]
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mr. sanders: thank you. a lot of people here. thank you. >> [cheering] [applause] mr. sanders: you know, three and a half months to go. we just began -- three and half months ago, we just begin the campaign. and everybody said this campaign was a joke. ando take on the economics political establishments of america. >> [cheering] mr. sanders: and three and a half months have gone by. we have had huge crowds all over america in iowa, new hampshire, california, you name it. >> [cheering] mr. sanders: and when people ask me why, what i tell them is the american people are saying enough is enough. >> [cheering]
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mr. sanders: this country the lungs to all of us. not just a handful of billionaires. >> [cheering] [applause] mr. sanders: and before i get going, i want to wish a happy institutionsome that is called social security. >> [cheering] [applause] mr. sanders: and let me be very clear, virtually all of the republican candidates in one form or another want to cut social security. together, we are not going to let them beat us. >> [cheering] [applause] mr. sanders: when we have seniors in this country trying year. by on $13,000 a
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people are not able to put enough food on the table. we are not going to cut social security. we are going to expand social security. >> [cheering] [applause] mr. sanders: and we are going to do that by lifting the tap on taxable income. >> [applause] today,ders: in america what we are seeing is the discipline of the great middle class. we are seeing millions of our brothers and sisters in iowa and all over this country working longer hours for lower wages, people are working 2, 3 jobs in order to put food on the table. all of the newst wealth is going to the top 1%. that is going to change.
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>> [cheering] [applause] mr. sanders: we need an economy that works for working people, not a handful of billionaires. >> [cheering] [applause] mr. sanders: and let me tell you something about to this campaign finance system that we have today. it is a corrupt> system. > [applause] -- a corrupted system. >> [applause] mr. sanders: citizens united will go down in history as one of the worst decisions ever made by a supreme court. >> [cheering] [applause] mr. sanders: and let me repeat a promise that i have made to all the crowds, and that is no nominee of mine to the supreme court will get that position unless he or she pledges to make certain that citizens united is
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over, period. >> [cheering] [applause] we triedrs: and when to understand wide is that so many of our family members, our friends, our neighbors are working at two or three jobs in order to cobble together in income and some health care, the answer is that -- in our country for many people are much, much too low. >> [cheering] mr. sanders: that is why we have $7.25 recognize that a minimum wage is a starvation wage. we have to raise the minimum wage to $15 an hour. >> [cheering] [applause] what we understand
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also is that when we lived in a competitive global economy, we need the best and trained workforce possible. >> [cheering] [applause] mr. sanders: it makes no sense to me that we have hundreds of thousands of qualified young people who want to get a higher education are unable to do so because their family lacks the income. that is wrong. >> [cheering] [applause] mr. sanders: and that is why i have introduced legislation and will fight for as president of the united states to make sure college, andic, university in america is tuition free. >> [cheering] [applause] (202) 748-8000 for -- mr. sanders: and we have also
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got to deal with the disgrace of outrageously high -- [indiscernible] -- on their student debt, 25%. if you can refinance your home at 2% or 3% today, you should not be paying 10% of student debt. >> [cheering] [applause] government: and the should also not be profiteering on student debt. >> [cheering] [applause] mr. sanders: and when we talked about raising the minimum wage, we have also got to talk about pay equity for women workers. >> [cheering] [applause] mr. sanders: women cannot continue to earn $.78 on the dollar.
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>> [cheering] [applause] my sanders: many of republican colleagues talk about family values. their values are that a woman should not have the right to control her own body. i disagree. >> [cheering] [applause] mr. sanders: -- [indiscernible] -- should not be able to get married or enjoy all of the benefits of american citizenship. i disagree. >> [cheering] [applause] mr. sanders: but my family values, and i have been married 27 years with four kids and seven grandchildren, my family values are that the united to and being in
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international embarrassment of being the only country on earth that doesn't guarantee paid family and medical leave. >> [cheering] [applause] when a woman has a baby in this country, regardless of her income, she should be able to spend three months with that baby getting to know that baby, love that baby, that is family values. >> [cheering] [applause] mr. sanders: and when we talk about american values, when we talk about where we want to go as a country, i want to and the observatory of the united states being the only major country on her that is not guarantee health care to all people. >> [cheering] [applause] mr. sanders: and that is why i
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am strongly for a medicare for all single-payer program. >> [cheering] [applause] and when we talk about our responsibilities as citizens, parents, as we have a moral responsibility to make certain that we leave this planet in a way that is habitable for kids and our grandchildren. >> [cheering] [applause] because -- climate change is real. climate change is caused by human activity. climate change is already causing devastating problems in
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our country and around the world. >> [applause] [cheering] what the united states must do and i will do as ,resident is lead to the world working with other countries, to transform our energy system -- oh, there is donald trump. >> [laughter] [applause] [chanting] mr. sanders: i apologize. he left the helicopter at home. >> [laughter] mr. sanders: in the garage. but i applaud -- [indiscernible] -- that we join the rest of the world, major countries around the world, guaranteeing health care to every man, woman, and child as a right to citizenship. -- as a right of citizenship.
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continue to have 35 billion people -- million people uninsured and many of you are underinsured, right? >> [applause] mr. sanders: and yet, after all of that, we end up spending almost twice as much per capita on health:. -- on health care. that is wrong. that has got to change. >> [applause] [applause] mr. sanders: and let me close on one issue i know a lot of people are thinking about. the truth is that in america, we have made real progress in terms of fighting racism over the years. and i want to thank the people of iowa for their courage in voting for obama in 2008. >> [cheering] [applause] mr. sanders: and what you showed is that a state which is mostly
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white could go be on the color and boatidate's skin to them based on their character. thank you all. >> [cheering] [applause] mr. sanders: but anyone who reads the papers, anyone who watches the tv understands that we still have a long ways to go. anyone who has seen the face of sandra bland or samuel dubose understands that it is unacceptable that african-americans can get taken out of their cars, thrown to the ground, and thrown into jail and died two days later. that is not what this country is about at all. >> [cheering] [applause] mr. sanders: you are looking at a -- [indiscernible] -- who will do everything that end theto end -- to
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stain of racism in this country and bring about major criminal justice reforms. >> [cheering] [applause] mr. sanders: i was a mayor for eight years. with our police department. and the truth is, most cops are good. very difficult jobs. they do the right thing. >> [applause] mr. sanders: and it is a very hard job. but when a police officer or any other public official breaks the law, that officer must be held accountable. >> [cheering] [applause] america,rs: today in we have more people in jail than any other country on earth, including china. we have a disproportionate number of people in jail who are black or hispanic. so we have a lot of work to do
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in criminal justice. number one, i will and this -- absurdity of having private corporations making billions on jails. >> [cheering] [applause] endsanders: we are going to this minimum sentencing where too many people have criminal records. >> [applause] mr. sanders: and when people go to jail, i want to make sure that there is a pathway for them out of jail. >> [cheering] [applause] mr. sanders: if people leave jail without money, without jobs, without education, without housing, without mental health issues being dealt with, the likelihood is they are going to end up back in jail and that is pretty crazy. so what i want to do is i want
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jobse us invest heavily in and education, not jails. >> [cheering] [applause] mr. sanders: let me tell you one thing that no other candidate will tell you. and that is -- i need your help, obviously, to win here in iowa. and i appreciate the support of so many people. but -- but if we are going to transform america, if we are going to have a government that represents working families and not large campaigns, we need a political resolution in this country. >> [cheering] [applause] need millions of people to stand up and make it clear to the billionaire classes
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, they cannot have it all. >> [cheering] [applause] mr. sanders: they are going to start paying their fair share of taxes. >> [cheering] mr. sanders: they are not going to continue to ship out jobs to china and elsewhere. >> [cheering] [applause] mr. sanders: but to make all of that happen, we need a strong grassroots political movement from vermont to california, and specifically here in iowa. so i welcome and urge all of you to join it me in helping to make a political revolution which transforms america, which creates a government that works for all of us and not just a handful. thank you all. >> [cheering] [applause] [cheering]
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bernie!bernie, [applause] bernie, bernie, bernie, bernie, bernie! [cheering] >> [indistinct chatter] >> [cheering] >> [indiscernible] iowa county. mr. bush: we are doing it right -- mr. sanders: we are doing it right now. -- [indiscernible] how many -- >> 24 on the ground. 14 officers. mr. sanders: we are to beginning -- we are beginning to put
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together the type of grassroots organization that will allow us to win. >> what does this big crowd tell you check up -- you? mr. sanders: it tells me the same thing i have seen all across the country. the people are sick and tired. almost all of the wealth is going to the top 1% well the middle class continues to disappear. they are sick and tired of a campaign-finance system that allows the billionaires to literally buy elections. people fight and died to defend america's democracy, but a handful of billionaires decide who the president will be. >> [indiscernible] mr. sanders: i have known joe biden for decades. he is a very decent guy. he is a friend of mine. if he gets in, that is great. if he doesn't, that is fine. i look forward to an issue oriented campaign. >> are the e-mails in the private server a distraction or illegitimate issue for democrats to consider?
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mr. sanders: [indiscernible] >> [indiscernible] mr. sanders: all right. we are going the wrong way. >> yes. [laughter] >> [indiscernible] >> [indistinct chatter] >> [indiscernible] -- we have the highest rate of
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childhood poverty of any nation. that is a real issue. a real issue that are campaign-finance system -- and let me underline the words -- it is a corrupt -- [indiscernible] >> [indiscernible] mr. sanders: it is corrupt. >> [indiscernible] mr. sanders: they created a system in which billionaires can buy elections. the united states can no longer go around the world and lecture countries on democracy when our country is becoming a system where billionaires spend unlimited sums of money to elect a -- >> [indiscernible] who is corrupt, the billionaires? mr. sanders: look, they are obeying the law. the koch brothers are going to spend more than anyone else. is that a legal? no. i'm talking about a corrupt the system. >> [indiscernible]
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i think the whole entire system is corrupt. i think i may be. i am not sure. it all depends. and we are going to try. let me tell you -- >> [indiscernible] republican or democrat taking unlimited donations from billionaires would be the perfect example of what you are talking about. mr. sanders: the system is corrupt. what people will tell you, hey, this system allows me to do that, i will do that. they are not breaking the law. what i am talking about is that i think -- [indiscernible] -- conservatives are saying -- [indiscernible] -- can spend more money than other the democratic or republican party and what the media -- [indiscernible] that is not democracy. that is called oligarchy where you have a nation over which --
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in which a handful of billionaires rule the country. >> [indiscernible] mr. sanders: it is true for any billionaire. but clearly in this election, most of the money will come from republicans. but the idea that any billionaire can have outside inputs makes no sense to me. >> [indiscernible] -- you had a yellow piece of paper in your hand, which he never looked at. what is on that paper? mr. sanders: top secret. i can tell you. >> [laughter] >> -- [indiscernible] -- because of the imbalance is you see. what did you think the economy should do now in the short term? mr. sanders: let's be very clear. i am afraid the american people, said -- [indiscernible] -- we were hemorrhaging 850,000 jobs a month. people complain the only group 250,000 jobs. that is a hell of a lot better than when bush left office. $1.4 trillion deficit.
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[indiscernible] answer i think everybody has to concede is, yes. but what is also going on is that for the last 40 years, the american middle class continues to disappear. youth unemployment, african american youth unemployment today, real unemployment, is 51%. we have elderly people trying to make it on $12,000, $13,000 social security and you have republicans talking about cutting social security rather than extending it. so i think the nerves that i'm touching are simply telling the truth. yeah, the economy is not going well for me or my mom or my kids. >> [indiscernible] -- you were out on the west coast. a huge crowd. you get here. you are just booed this morning. was that a letdown? mr. sanders: are you kidding me? we had a 600 people. anybody know the population of
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loan, iowa? -- boone, iowa? that is a big size of the population. >> [indiscernible] >> [cheering] >> thank you. >> [indiscernible] >> bernie. bernie? >> [indiscernible] >> [indistinct chatter] >> [indistinct chatter]
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>> [indistinct chatter] >> go, bernie! >> [indistinct chatter] >> senator? >> [indiscernible] bernie, bernie, bernie! >> [indistinct chatter] >> are you ok? >> [indistinct chatter]


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